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Estoy de acuerdo en todo lo que dice este chabon, en todos los articulos de su blog.
http://lifestylejourney.blogspot.com/
It is said that women need to be entertained because if they aren't they'll just move on to the next guy who is more entertaining. Furthermore, you have to pass women’s tests because if you don't you're not worthy. This is a big one. First of all, as a man do you not see the problem with these statements? Do you think that a masculine (dominant) male would ever think along these lines? And do you think that a feminine woman would select for masculine dominant men by making them submit to tests?
"I want a man who is strong...but I also want him to satisfy X, Y, Z requirements". Do you not see the problem with that?
y un comentario sobre el blog:
This kinda reminds me of the post on this forum (direct-method.com) about the movie 300.
How if you went up to a Spartan and told him you were having issues talking to
women he would laugh at your ass and then probably beat the shit outta you. 
True masculinity. That's what missing in our modern lives.
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que pedazo de animallll
es exactamente lo que hablabamos con vos el otro dia
"rutinas, st".. BASTA DE DAR VUELTAS CARAJO!!
Mode One. That's da future
jajajajajj
salu2!
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Traduzco un poco para los que tengan problemas con el ingles.
articulo dice que las mujeres necesitan ser entretenidas porque si no lo son ellas simplemente se mueven al siguiente vago o pibe quien es mas entretenido. Ademas tenes que pasar las pruebas de lla porque sino las pasas no sos respetable. Esto es lo importante (asi queda claro) Primero que todo, como un hombre, no ves el problema con esta declaracion? , pensas que un macho alfa (asi qeuda mejor jaja) alguna vez va a pensar sobre estas lineas? y vos pensas q una hb re partible seleccionara un macho alfa sometiendolo a traves de pruebas?
quier un hombre q sea fuerte pero tambien lo quiero para satisfacer los X,Y ,Z requisitos. No vez el problema con eso?
Verdadera masculinidad, eso es lo que esta perdido en nuestras vidas modernas.
Le regalo la traduccion de la parte de 300 a alguno mas.
salud2
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| Vie Dic 28, 2007 4:39 am |
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Creed
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la trad de la parte 300 dice:
Esto me recuerda a el posteo en este foro (direct-method.com) acerca de la pelicula 300.
Como si fueras y le dijeras a un Espartano que tenias problemas para hablarle a las mujeres, el se reiria de vos y probablemente te de una patada en el traste.
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Nicolas Rodrigo
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Yo me di cuenta q el macho q tenemos dentro es mucho más atractivo, efectivo y mas cómodo de usar y por sobretodo... mucho más honesto que inventarme una personalidad "seductiva".
De a poco me voy dando cuenta q el "natural" lo tenía guardado dentro mío, y solo tenía q sacarlo a la luz, no inventarlo.
Buen thread.
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How if you went up to a Spartan and told him you were having issues talking to
women he would laugh at your ass and then probably beat the shit outta you.
True masculinity. That's what missing in our modern lives. |
Jajajajajajj
no hay nada más alfa q leónidas de 300, estaría para hacer un thread para analizarlo 
Verdadera masculinidad, es verdad q nos está faltando... en el lenguage cotidiano diríamos q nos faltan "huevos"
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Y bueno para hacerlo completo el post vamos a ponerlo
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| Vie Dic 28, 2007 9:55 pm |
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Alive
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Creo que ser entretenido es cuestion de tener bolas. Lo mismo siendo C&F. Cuando entras y lo haces y te ponene cara de "y este?", es cuando te plantas y probas que te importa un carajo lo que pueda pensar la mina.
Es mas, a veces me resulto mas jodido sargear a una mina, ser copado, plantarme, decirle que me interesa y plantarme de nuevo, que simplemente ir y decir "ey, esta sbuena" te pìnta o no?
jajja, estaba por poner que la idea no es tener mas bolas sino llevarte algo de la flaca... pero la verdad es que a veces esta bueno el hecho de decir "ey, yo fui ahi y me la banque"
aunque que se yo, a veces ante un ST que me jodia mucho las bolas, le decia a la mina "no tengo ganas de contestar eso, para que haces preguntas molestas si podriamos hablar tranquilos" y seguia la charla tranca, pero jamas pensaba que podia funcionar... voy a probar algunos contestando los ST onda... i care a shit.
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But here's the crux, truly being a man is it's own reward, which means, it doesn't depend on or seek "shine" or "promises". It simply means being a better person from the inside out. |
OJO... si sos un chabon copado, no lo haces por conseguir a la flaca... lo haces por sentirte un flaco con onda... hay formas y formas de usar le material PU. hacerlo por buscar a la mina... no se si alguien logra hacerlo funcar asi, peor no te motiva... como haces para bancarte ir y que no te den nada si no lo haces por sentirte bien con vos. No funca asi (lo digo yo que muchas veces termino un sarge y me doy cuenta que algo lo dije solo para obtener un resultado y hasta no saber que era no me deja de romper las bolas).
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no hay nada más alfa q leónidas de 300, estaría para hacer un thread para analizarlo |
What??A??!?!?!?! Tenemos una generacín de jovenes queriendo ser unos cavernícolas con músculas de hace 4mil años??? Involución???
Ser alpha en el mundo contemporáneo es un poco mas complejo que Ser una bolsa de testosterona que se pelea con todo lo que respira...
Leonidas (el guerrero que representaba el personaje de la peli) llevo a la muerte a 300 soldados a una batalla que NO TENIA CHANCES MATEMÁTICAS DE GANAR... en vez de buscar una alternativa mas inteligente...como migrar a otras tierras...
Soy un gran defensor del "prefiero morir de pie que vivir arrodillado", pero leonidas no es ningún alpha...
Un patova violento que le pega a un chico de 17 años ebrio NO es un alpha
el lider de una pandilla
el capital del equipo de futbol que va y abusa de un nerd no es un alpha
O sino... Di zEO es un alpha??? Shenkler es un alpha??? Este último se va a comer 25 años por liderar una asociación ilícita...
Ojo con los modelos e alphas que tienen boys
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no hay nada más alfa q leónidas de 300, estaría para hacer un thread para analizarlo |
What??A??!?!?!?! Tenemos una generacín de jovenes queriendo ser unos cavernícolas con músculas de hace 4mil años??? Involución???
Ser alpha en el mundo contemporáneo es un poco mas complejo que Ser una bolsa de testosterona que se pelea con todo lo que respira...
Leonidas (el guerrero que representaba el personaje de la peli) llevo a la muerte a 300 soldados a una batalla que NO TENIA CHANCES MATEMÁTICAS DE GANAR... en vez de buscar una alternativa mas inteligente...como migrar a otras tierras...
Soy un gran defensor del "prefiero morir de pie que vivir arrodillado", pero leonidas no es ningún alpha...
Un patova violento que le pega a un chico de 17 años ebrio NO es un alpha
el lider de una pandilla
el capital del equipo de futbol que va y abusa de un nerd no es un alpha
O sino... Di zEO es un alpha??? Shenkler es un alpha??? Este último se va a comer 25 años por liderar una asociación ilícita...
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Jajajajjaj obvio man xD
Igual me parece q mal interpretaste la película  sacrificaron a los mejores 300 soldados para no tener q mandar a la guerra a todo el pueblo espartano. Y fueron a la guerra porque si los invadían los persas, todo el pueblo espartano terminaba en la esclavitud total. Me parece más inteligente sacrificar a 300 soldados (que no fueron "obligados" a sacrificarse) que mandar a matar a miles y miles.
Esto está basado en un hecho REAL, y si, mandaron a 300 soldados contra miles, se llamó "La batalla de Termópilas", y se peleó en Grecia, antes de Cristo. Y GANARON.
Qué se puede rescatar de Leónidas:
>Determinación
>Huevos
>Principios muy arraigados, tiene reglas y las respeta
>Cree en sí mismo y en sus creencias
>Liderazgo
>Valentía
>Fortaleza mental
>Respeto hacia sí mismo
>Consistencia en lo que hace, no duda en hacer
>Estado físico
>MASCULINIDAD
Eso es lo q a mi parecer hace a este personaje ALFA, y estas cosas son las q nos pueden servir de ejemplo.
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| Lun Ene 07, 2008 6:56 am |
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jaja alguno fue al blog y lo leyo? lo de leonidas era un comentario que hizo un tipo en otro foro que me parecio gracioso, nada mas. lo importante era el link
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| Mie Ene 09, 2008 10:32 pm |
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MUY BUENO
LEANLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tiene unos analisis que a cada paso te hacen decir "dios... es VERDAD"
posta LEANLO. te deja pensando y te crea muchas contradicciones (yo todavia estoy depurando algunas).
tiene algo que es casi magico. mientras uno lo lee es totalmente distinto de cuando uno lee material pu... simplemente porque lees eso y decis "y si".
esta bueno para poner los pies sore la tierra (al menso un pcoo mas)
EDIT: NO ESTOY JODIENDO... ES MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUY BUENO!!!!!!!!!!
no se si van a tener mas minitas, pero que es bueno es MUY BUENO
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When average guys are speaking their "boring usual stuff" they are usually coming from a needy place. A guy, who rehearses the better material, and better stories, is coming from that SAME needy place because he IS depending on those things. |
mi intencion no es darle con un palo a nadie... pero esto es solo muestra gratis. lean los posts y van a entender bien el analisis del chabon
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| Mie Mar 19, 2008 11:36 pm |
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se, tiene un ibuk tambien
por el momento dudo que lo lea.
para mi con el blog alcanza
che, es muy groos, lo termine de leer y me siento un pro alfa macho... un womanizador de laputa madre... no mentira, me siento re cormal jajajja, leanlo
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Nicolas Rodrigo
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Este blog es excelente, lo leí todo.
Dejo un recorte que me parece bárbaro:
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Awareness
Being aware means removing all the things that hurt you including any old terminology and ways of thinking you have in your head from the old way of doing things, such as DHV (Display Higher Value), pumping BT (Buying Temperature), using "game", calling women "hotties" or perfect 10s, wondering how long to make the phone calls, wondering what to say on the phone calls, wondering how to react, etc. All these things need to be removed as they all contribute to loss of power with women.
Look at it this way, let’s say you do succeed with some women using all this stuff. These women could never be aware of it. All they could ever really know and look back on is that you were confident and sure of yourself. So isn't it better to actually BE confident and sure of yourself?
But you still want to get women and I haven't really showed you how
If after reading all this you're still in that mindset then I obviously haven't gotten through to you. But I will try one more time.
Women are a byproduct of you having a happy and fulfilling life. It is nothing more complicated than that.
Whether women approach you or you happen to meet someone really cool, all that has to happen as you go about your normal business. This could be going to the store, or going to the bar to relax. This is simply something that happens to you while you are doing your own thing.
You have to remove the strong desire of wanting something to happen where women are concerned. You just have to not care. And I don't just mean not caring if nothing happens, but not caring if something does happen. Being indifferent and not attaching importance either way.
Furthermore, don't make the mistake of thinking that just because you are a guy it is justified to lust/chase after women. I can tell you right now that you have a lot more control over this than you might think. Remember what I said about ego earlier? This applies. It's a choice. So make that choice now.
When I committed myself to this not only did I find myself less attached and happier as a result. I also found myself losing the attachment I had to the emotional high I would get by thinking/fantasizing about women. Now that too is almost gone.
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Nicolas Rodrigo
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Esto es re zarpado, me hizo cortocircuito en la cabeza
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The Way Things Really Are
We are surrounded by forces telling us what to desire and feel. We are taught to chase after things. Hold on to things. Things that can make us "happy". Things that can satisfy "thirst". But all too often these things result in our suffering. Why is that?
The answer to this is actually really simple. It is the pursuit of self (ego) and our attachment to objects that gives rise to suffering.
Let me illustrate with a story.
Back in my school days we used to occasionally do presentations in front of our teachers and peers. I remember in elementary school it was generally easy for me to do them. I wasn't nervous. It was just like having a conversation. But in high school the presentations started becoming more nerve wracking. For some reason I had developed a serious case of "stage fright" presenting in class. It was odd because in elementary school I breezed through them. So what changed?
What changed was my view towards presenting, brought on by the increased expectations at school. For instance, it became more “important” to do well in school. There was more “competition”. “Screwing up” was less acceptable. Grades were more important. The stakes were higher, etc. Furthermore, the people at school were saying that it’s normal to be nervous during presentations. So here you have a situation where you are taught to respond a certain way and then told that your response is normal.
If the issue had never come up and if the burden of expectations were never felt then I would never have been nervous. It would never have occurred to me to feel anxiety, simply because there would have been no attachment. And ironically, I would have done better anyway.
To illustrate with another example, consider how men are taught from a young age that it's important to have women in their lives. And if they don’t they will be unhappy, unfulfilled, less of a man, etc. Many men take this to heart and go through tremendous effort to have women in their lives. For years I was one of those guys. I made getting-women a part of my identity. It was absolutely necessary for me to have women to be happy. I saw this pattern in many men and it reinforced my belief at the time.
Unfortunately, it was doing me more harm than good but I had no idea why at the time.
Fortunately, my eyes were opened when I discovered that there were men who were happy even without women in their lives. They didn't chase women, or avoid them. And things happened naturally for them. I was forced to re-examine the situation and eventually I realized for myself, that you can be happy without women. It became my new reality.
So imagine how much control you truly have. You only have to realize something to make it true. Mind over matter. All this stuff in my head about needing women was programmed in me as being true. So once I re-programmed myself to not need women anymore then that became true in its place - and with a much better result. I became much happier. And naturally it led me to wonder what else you can detach from which some may currently believe to be difficult. Are you trying to quit smoking? Are you of the belief that it's difficult to quit because the "experts" tell you it is? I can tell you that if men can stop desiring women then you can stop smoking just by choosing to.
Can you live without your Blackberry?
Can you live without your IPOD?
Many people would say No. But wasn't there a time when these things weren't around? And is it reasonable to assume they were unhappier? I think not.
Don't be afraid of letting go of desires. If you don't then you may very well find yourself a victim of them.
This is not an abstract or unnatural thing to undertake. In fact, it's completely logical. It just means understanding the nature of desire and how it relates to your sense of self (ego).
Realize that when you chase after something, chances are you are doing it to reinforce your sense of self. And as it often happens, you get caught up in the chasing part of it. And even if you do get what you wanted, the urge to chase is still there. You may want something else, or something better. And that something may be just as fleeting as this thing you have, having no value except that which you have given it or which others have given it - all subject to change, and non-constant. It's like trying to hold on to the wind. Does it make sense to do that?
Why grasp at something which has such fleeting, intangible value? It cannot, and never will live up to your expectations, and that will unavoidably cause you grief.
Many men chase after "beautiful" women - women who spend hours on makeup and clothes - which must be "re-applied" on a regular basis. So much energy chasing after an illusion. Where is the logic in that? And then there’s chasing after sex, knowing that the activity of sex doesn't remove the desire for it. Where is the rationale?
Many women also fruitlessly grasp at things. They pursue "relationships" in order to affirm their ability to “keep a man”. They sometimes withhold sex to achieve that goal. And they are often not able to enjoy sex because they are too concerned that he may leave after - an example of not living the moment.
Actually, both men and women are often not living the moment when it comes to sex and dating. They are too caught up in a consumer mentality and it makes them miserable in the long run.
Enjoying the moment means enjoying the process, which means you don't care about the destination. When you live the moment there is no association between where you are and where you want to be. You are truly relaxed and enjoying yourself.
When you're living the moment your actions come from inside you and you are not preoccupied with results. It’s good to extend this mentality to your lifestyle, the friends you make, your livelihood, etc.
Avoid the common trap of being happy and wanting something that can make you happier. What can happen is that the desire to be happier can consume your thoughts. And in that instant you are less happy than before. Let that realization hit you like a bolt of lightning.
It's wise to develop a strong sense of awareness and be mindful of how you do things and react to things. How are your thoughts and actions affected? How does that relate to your sense of self (ego)?
Make your thoughts and actions congruent. For instance, don't tell yourself to be indifferent towards women and then go to a bar to "pick up". Don't tell yourself that you don't care whether you have sex or not and then take her out to an expensive dinner, or read up on "seduction". Your thoughts and actions must be congruent or you will have inner conflict.
Think of your thoughts and actions in terms of suffering and happiness, not just your suffering, but others as well. Follow the wholesome (happy) path and avoid the path that leads to suffering. It may take wisdom to differentiate between the two so don’t be discouraged if you don’t get it right the first time.
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